Is the New Sig P365 the Perfect Carry Gun?
It is a reasonable question to ask. The latest pistol offered by Sig Sauer is small, light, compact, and has a respectable round count for a pistol this size. While it may not be a hand-filling, full-on combat pistol, it does look like it will mark many of the boxes on any CCW checklist; and it might just be THE new concealed pistol.
While some folks will always want to carry something more along the lines of that combat pistol, many just want something that works, is effective, and is easy to carry. Obvious comparisons that come to mind are the Glock 43 and Smith & Wesson Shield – both fine pistols in that role, and quite popular. But then Sig did this.
The Sig P365 maintains approximately the same one inch width that it shares with both the G43 and the Shield and, at 4.25 tall, is about the same height as the 43 while about half an inch shorter than the Smith. The new Sig, however, gains a big advantage for those hoping to pocket carry it: with a 5.9″ OAL, it is a quarter- to half-inch shorter than the S&W and Glock, respectively. While that reduction in length won’t matter much for carrying it on your belt, this smaller size will likely be quite noticeable in the pocket. Continue reading
SIG SAUER Introduces the P365 “Ultimate Concealed Carry Pistol”
SIG SAUER, Inc. introduces the new High-Capacity Micro-Compact P365 – the ultimate concealed carry pistol. This revolutionary striker-fired 9mm pistol offers the perfect balance of capacity and concealment with unrivaled shootability and ergonomics. The P365’s patent-pending, narrow-neck, modified double-stack magazine holds 10 rounds in both the flush-fit and extended versions, plus one in the chamber, for a full capacity of 11 rounds – nearly a 50 percent capacity increase over pistols in its class. An optional 12-round extended magazine equips this micro-compact pistol with full-size 13-round capacity, allowing you to carry more, everyday – 365 days a year. The P365 is also smaller and lighter than most other pistols in its class, measuring 1-inch wide, 5.8-inches long, and 4.3-inches tall with a barrel length of 3.1-inches. It weighs just 17.8 ounces with an empty magazine.
The unique grip design and higher grip to bore axis reduces perceived recoil and makes the P365 as comfortable to shoot as many mid-sized pistols. The grip is fully-textured polymer with a slim-line rail that will accommodate SIG light or laser accessories. The stainless-steel slide comes standard with front and rear serrations for easier slide manipulation, as well as SIGLITE® night sights for faster sight acquisition under all lighting conditions. Continue reading
Details of Sig Sauer’s P320 “Voluntary Upgrade Program”
We’ll leave the discussion of Sig Sauer’s P320 issues, differences between the military contract pistols and those sold to consumers, the “I Told You Sos,” “What Were They Thinkings,” and the Recall vs Upgrade debates to our readers in the comments section below and on the GunLink Forums. There are now plenty of videos and discussions going on around the internet that most people by now know that the Sig Sauer P320 can be caused to fire unintentionally (that is, without an intentional, manual trigger pull) by being dropped at a certain angle or even by giving it a firm whack on the behind.
The company has temporarily suspended shipment of the P320 from the factory while they “ramp up to implement changes” related to the condition.
Sig announced last week that they would be issuing a voluntary upgrade to the P320 to address concerns and the details of that upgrade program -which will include “an alternate design that reduces the physical weight of the trigger, sear, and striker while additionally adding a mechanical disconnector” – are now available.
The official Upgrade Program page is up on the Sig Sauer website along with instructions on how to upgrade your pistol at no cost to you. Owners of affected pistols (US domestic commercial customers) may enter their serial number on the website to begin the upgrade process and then Sig “will contact you regarding the best method for you to get your P320 pistol to them.”
Sig continues to maintain that the P320 pistol is safe in its current configuration on the “voluntary upgrade” page, saying that their “mechanical safeties are designed to augment, not replace safe handling practices. Careless and improper handling of any firearm can result in an unintentional discharge.” Take from that statement what you wish, from a company selling defensive firearms that may be used by open or concealed carry practitioners and law enforcement officers, often in the worst of situations that may include physical confrontations and attacks, sweat, blood, dirt, darkness, and other less than ideal conditions.
This reminds me of the chair lift commercials on TV that advise the old folks to avoid breaking their hips with this weird old trick… “just don’t fall!” Just don’t drop or roughly handle your pistol and you won’t accidentally get shot by it; it’s just that easy! The company continues to go on about how they included (likely legally obligated) language in the user manual that it might go off if dropped.
Although the upgrade page says that MHS pistols are not effected, regular P320 pistols and X-series pistols are effected.
For details of the program, visit https://www.sigsauer.com/support/p320-voluntary-upgrade-program/
SIG SAUER Issues Voluntary Upgrade of P320 Pistol
P320 pistol meets requirements for industry and government safety standards; performance enhancements optimize function, safety, and reliability
Following what is turning into a flood of internet rumors, memes, videos of the P320 firing when dropped, and a statement last week from Sig Sauer reaffirming the safety of the p320, the company is issuing a “voluntary upgrade” of the pistol that was recently selected for use by the US Army, Air Force, and numerous law enforcement agencies.
The P320 meets U.S. standards for safety, including the American National Standards Institute (ANSI) / Sporting Arms Ammunition Manufacturers’ Institute, Inc. (SAAMI), National Institute of Justice (NIJ), as well as rigorous testing protocols for global military and law enforcement agencies.
The design of the SIG SAUER P320 overcomes the most significant safety concern in striker-fired pistols today: the practice of pressing the trigger for disassembly. This can be performed with a round in the chamber which has resulted in numerous incidents of property damage, physical injury, and death. The disassembly process of the P320, however, uses a take-down lever rather than pressing the trigger, eliminating the possibility of discharge during the disassembly process.
Recent events indicate that dropping the P320 beyond U.S. standards for safety may cause an unintentional discharge.
As a result of input from law enforcement, government and military customers, SIG has developed a number of enhancements in function, reliability, and overall safety including drop performance. SIG SAUER is offering these enhancements to its customers. Details of this program will be available at sigsauer.com on Monday, August 14, 2017.
The M17 variant of the P320, selected by the U.S. government as the U.S. Army’s Modular Handgun System (MHS), is not affected by the Voluntary Upgrade.
“SIG SAUER is committed to our approach on innovation, optimization, and performance, ensuring we produce the finest possible products,” said Ron Cohen, President and CEO of SIG SAUER. “Durability, reliability and safety, as well as end-user confidence in the SIG SAUER brand are the priorities for our team.” Continue reading
Sig Sauer: The P320 is Perfectly Safe
Sig Sauer’s new P320 – which won the XM17 bids for United States Army and Air Force Modular Handgun Systems and has been adopted by a number of relatively high-profile law enforcement outfits – has been facing some online heat as of late. The P320, which beat out offerings from Glock, FN, Beretta, and others, will become the US Military’s new M17 pistol to replace the Beretta M9 and Sig’s old P228 variant, the M11. The XM17 competition results were hotly contested by other manufactures, most notably Glock, who have challenged the results multiple times.
Amid internet buzz that individual owners and law enforcement armorers are concerned about how drop safe the new pistols are and which departments may or may not be abandoning the platform, Sig Sauer sent out the following release yesterday evening:
SIG SAUER Reaffirms Safety of P320 Pistol
Striker-fired pistol exceeds safety standards of ANSI/SAAMI and U.S. military testing
In response to social media rumors questioning the safety of the P320 pistol, a variant of which was selected by the U.S. government as the U.S. Army’s Modular Handgun System (MHS), SIG SAUER, Inc. has full confidence in the reliability, durability and safety of its striker-fired handgun platform. There have been zero (0) reported drop-related P320 incidents in the U.S. commercial market, with hundreds of thousands of guns delivered to date.
The P320 meets and exceeds all U.S. standards for safety, including the American National Standards Institute (ANSI) and Sporting Arms and Ammunition Manufacturers’ Institute, Inc. (SAAMI), as well as rigorous testing protocols for global military and law enforcement agencies.
All SIG SAUER pistols incorporate effective mechanical safeties to ensure they only fire when the trigger is pressed. However, like any mechanical device, exposure to acute conditions (e.g. shock, vibration, heavy or repeated drops) may have a negative effect on these safety mechanisms and cause them to not work as designed. This language is common to owner’s manuals of major handgun manufacturers.
As a result, individual attempts to perform drop tests outside of professionally controlled environments should not be attempted.
“SIG SAUER is committed to producing only the finest products,” said Ron Cohen, President and CEO of SIG SAUER. “Safety and reliability have been and always will be paramount to the SIG SAUER brand.”
North Dakota Highway Patrol Adopts Sig Sauer P320
Agency Transitions from SIG P226 to Striker-Fired P320
SIG SAUER, Inc. is proud to announce the selection of the striker-fired P320 as the sidearm of choice for the North Dakota Highway Patrol (NDHP).
The NDHP was organized in 1935 with just five patrolmen. Their duty was to enforce state laws pertaining to the protection and use of highways in North Dakota, the 19th largest state with the highest number of roads per capita.
Today, the NDHP boasts over 150 sworn officers who are assigned a wide array of tasks, ranging from driver examinations to protecting the northern border. Before selecting the SIG P320 in 9mm, the NDHP utilized P226 pistols chambered in .357 SIG.
“The North Dakota Highway Patrol looks forward to the transition to the SIG SAUER P320,” said Captain Thomas Iverson. “After a thorough testing process, we are confident the new weapon will serve our agency well.”
Since its introduction in January 2014, the revolutionary P320 has gained tremendous momentum in the firearm world. Earlier this year, the U.S. Army selected a variant of the P320 as its next service pistol. With unprecedented modularity and a clean, crisp trigger pull, the P320 sets a new standard for striker-fired performance. The serialized trigger group is interchangeable, allowing the shooter to transform the size and caliber of the pistol. Full size, Carry, Compact and Subcompact frames are available. Grip frames are further divided into small, medium and large to accommodate any hand size.
“From scorching summers to brutal winters, the North Dakota Highway Patrol works in some of the country’s most extreme weather. We are honored that the agency continues to trust the reliability of the SIG SAUER firearms in this harsh environment,” said Tom Jankiewicz, Executive Vice President, Law Enforcement Sales. “We have a long history of providing only the best firearms for law enforcement use, and we are humbled that officers trust their lives to our products.”
